Head Coach Brian Daboll

Daboll: Morning. Fire away.

Q: Usually you mention what situations you guys are working on. What are you guys working on today?

A: First, second down. Back with the pads. We're going to do 9-on-7 today. A run drill. So, defense knows it's run. Offense knows it's run. I think that's important for the guys at the line of scrimmage to compete at that knowing that's coming.

Q: Did you think (Quarterback) Daniel (Jones) had a strong day yesterday? It seemed like the ball didn't touch the ground much.

A: Yeah. I think he's been doing good. Each day, he's making progress. Made good decisions. Had a couple turnovers, which one was a little slip on the skill guy and a timing route. So, I thought the other one (Cornerback) Adoree' (Jackson) made a really good play. Attacked the ball well. We always try to limit those the best we can. But I think he's making progress. Decision making. Trusting his reads. Still got a ways to go.

Q: How much does a day like that though maybe help your offense? I know it goes back and forth, but is it the kind of day where things start clicking for them?

A: I think that when you go in a film room, and you're the coordinator or you're a coach that's teaching guys, you try not to ride the waves of really play-to-play. Because there's a lot of good things that happen. You know, the details of the play that guys are doing things well. And you try to be as consistent as you can, whether it's a completion, an incompletion. Why is it an incompletion? You teach it. Why is it complete? It can be a completion, and still the play is not exactly how you need it to be done. The efficiency of it. I just try to keep these guys as levelheaded as we can. Find out what we got to fix, and if something's good, let them know that it's good. We go out and there's six incompletions, I don't really worry about that. Because there's a lot of things that are going on within the play or the reason for it. And conversely, if the ball doesn't hit the ground much, that's fine. But there' might be some things that, even though it's a completion, that we really need to get fixed because it'll cost us as we get going. So, being as consistent as we can as a coaching staff – that's our approach.

Q: Coach, do you look at Daniel and say that's he's becoming more comfortable taking some of the chances downfield?

A: Time will tell. You know, we certainly encourage that, particularly right now in training camp and in the spring. We want to make the right decision, but I also think there's an element mentally in a quarterback's head of the fear of failure or making a mistake. I think everything is really risk/reward when you're talking about plays for a quarterback. Like is the risk worth the reward? And if it is, let's go ahead. There's situations. There's players you don't want to throw at. There's a lot of things that go into that. But really what I want Daniel to do is make the right play. Make the right decision. And there's certain periods that we want to test the deep part of the field or see how the secondary covers, sure, but for the most part we want to make a good decision with the football and go onto the next play. If that's a 60answer because there's still communication going on in that regard. So, we'll do that tomorrow. Right now, the way that I have it is we'll all be on-yarder down the field, that's a 60-yarder. If it's a check to a run, check to a run. That's really what we're trying to get done with Daniel, with all our quarterbacks.

Q: And as a follow up real quick, is he making more of the right decisions to where he's not thinking as much and he's just on autopilot?

A: Yeah, that's a question for him. He's the one back there holding it. You know, I think he's he's steadily improved since we got here. He's learning a whole new language. It's not just for Daniel, it's any young quarterback or new quarterback in a new system. There's a lot to learn. There's a lot to handle. So, he's making progress. But we still, we're constantly teaching and we're evolving as to what we do. Still, we're trying to figure out what we do well too. What our pieces are. The routes that are good. There might be a certain route concept that we ran yesterday where after we tried it three or four times, I'm telling (Offensive Coordinator Mike) Kafka like, 'Let's just move on from that play.' But we need to practice it to see if that's something we're good at. And I think the quarterback has to have some input on that as well. So, he's making improvement each day.

Q: Brian, on Friday – on Friday night, are you going to go offense against defense or split them up?

A: No, so we're still – I don't want to give you a definite the same sideline. The coaches that will be up in the box for the first preseason game will go upstairs in the box after we have a 10 to 12 minute special teams, get everybody organized. And then, we'll go out there, and we'll compete against each other. Exactly how we're going to do that, we're going to talk about that tomorrow. Just see what happens here out at practice today.

Q: Brian, a couple of your receivers have mentioned they like that you're grooming this offense to make the route their own, and it's not pen-to-paper. I'm curious, how does that happen? Because it can't be backyard football where like I'm going to run a slant and you think I'm going to run a curl. And then, there's a pick six.

A: Yeah, it's not like that. Exactly. There's obviously different route concepts. Combinations. You know, some adjustments are standard adjustments. I'd say most teams do them. Other routes that we have, you can do a lot of different things. But that's the communication that the quarterback, the receiver, even the tight ends, even the backs with (Running Back) Saquon (Barkley) and (Running Back) Matt (Breida), they have to be on the same page. Like the body language for a receiver – or let's just call it a skill player – is really critical for a quarterback. You know, you're back there, and again sometimes it's just a timing route where you're taking five steps, no hitch, and letting it rip. Some other times where there's wiggle room, the skill player really has a responsibility to see it like the quarterback. So, the quarterback's vision is like this, sometimes the skill's vision is like this. So that's a work in progress with the guys that we have, making sure that they're doing things the way the quarterback sees it, and the quarterback sees it. That's why the communication in the meeting room is so important. You know, there's a lot of communication, and I encourage that. Those are the ones throwing it and catching it, but it's not like he's supposed to run an in-cut and the guy just runs a flat. We don't do that.

Q: So, it's post-huddle, pre-snap like when the guys are actually in their spot based on where…

A: It's pre and post. You got to get a look at what the defense is doing. Some defenses disguise a lot. Some others don't. Is it man? Is it zone? There's a lot of things. That's why I keep saying we place a premium on intelligent players. And you got to be smart as a receiver in our offense.

Q: Are you having the coordinators upstairs or on the field with you?

A: On Friday, both of them will be downstairs. And then, the first game, I haven't made an ultimate decision. We'll see how Friday goes. But that's how it will be on Friday.

Q: Brian, how much are you actually just looking forward to that first experience in the stadium?

A: Yeah, I think it's awesome. I think it's, you know, again, the more fans you have, the more juice you get as a player and as a coach. And I think it's good. It's the next step. Spring ball is obviously a lot different than training camp. You have the fans out here. There's energy. There's a lot of people watching. You try not to let the outside affect your performance. You try to concentrate on your job. But everybody's human. So, the more people there are, there's added pressure at times for certain players. And other times they can handle it. So, I think it's just another step in getting ready for our preseason game.

Q: Brian, we've seen (Guard) Josh (Ezeudu) take snaps at left guard, left tackle, even right tackle. Is there a situation where he could be the backup at all four positions other than center? Or do you want to have a swing tackle and an interior lineman?

A: No, there's a situation. If he's the best guy for us – the next best guy to go in. Usually what you try to do, and it's not always the case when you're talking about really any position, but most offensive line coaches like a one-for-one. Like if one guy goes down, the next guy goes in instead of moving two people. Sometimes you have to do that based on who you have. But he's done a good job, and it's hard for – he's a rookie. So again, I credit (General Manager) Joe (Schoen) and the scouting staff for really diving into these guys in terms of how they learn and the ability to learn multiple things. We put a lot on them. I'd say we put a lot on all the rookies. But that's how we're going to do it.

Q: Do you have a (Center Jon) Feliciano update?

A: He'll be out there.

Q: Full go?

A: Yep. We'll probably manage him. It's going to be a hot one today. But he's out there ready to practice.

Q: So, it was an overheating, heat and hydration situation?

A: Yeah, he's good to go.

Q: Putting aside the fundamentals of the game you have to teach, this team has struggled in recent years. Do you feel like more than anything you have to teach some of these players just how to win? How do you go about doing that?

A: Yeah. That's a great question. I've definitely thought about it. You naturally think about it. You want to try to win. If you're a competitor, you want to win in everything you do. So, you try to, in these situations in practice, you try to create as competitive an environment as you can whether that's in the cafeteria, at the walk through, in the locker room, everything's about competition. If you love this sport or you love to compete – you should love to compete. You should try to do everything you can to try to win knowing again it's hard. We're committed to a process of trying to improve and do things a certain way. And sometimes the results aren't going to be exactly what you want right away, but you have to stay committed to what you believe in and keep improving. Talking about competition and creating that type of competition, I think that it's players and coaches that you bring in too and the culture you're trying to create. It's hard nowadays. It was hard 20 years ago when I was doing it, to not let the results affect the process. We're strong in our belief of trying to do things the right way and keep improving in that area, competing. And you hope that the better you do, the more you compete, the more detailed you are that the results come with it.

Q: Just as a follow-up, this is is the first time you're trying to do that as a head coach. Is that the hardest part of your job so far?

A: Yeah. That's another good question. I don't know if it's the hardest. There's a lot of things that have come across my desk the last few months that I ask for a lot of opinions not just from my staff, but from people that have done it in the past. You know, humble, don't have all the answers, doing the best job you can and creating a culture that you see for your team as you got to give it sun and water every day. It just doesn't stay the same. You have to stay on top of it. The values that you believe in, you have to commit to those, and you have to find different ways to express those and show them good examples of what they're doing. Not just the players but the coaches, the staff. You have to be a good communicator. But there's certainly a big part of it that I've been trying to work on the best I can. And it takes time.

Quarterback Tyrod Taylor

Q: How's camp going so far?

A: It's been going well. Guys are getting out and competing each and every day. I like the energy on the offense, and defense as well. I haven't gotten a chance to watch special teams, but I can hear them. It's been competition across the board. 

Q: I read something yesterday that you and (Wide receiver) Darius Slayton go way back somehow?

A: Yeah, we've been training. So, he's from Georgia. I bought a house in Georgia about five years ago and I've been training down there. So, me and Darius have been amongst guys that have trained together for a number of years now. This year it made sense to get with even more with us being on the same team and speaking the same language. We've definitely gotten a chance to connect on a few balls throughout camp and I'm looking forward just to continuing to keep building that chemistry. I have all the trust in him as well as the other guys in that wide receiver room to go out and make plays. He's done a good job of doing that.

Q: What do you think as a quarterback, what's important to work on this early in camp?

A: Everyone has weaknesses in their game, so you try to attack it and that looks different for every person. Ultimately, it's about leading, responding, and how you respond in tough circumstances each and every day. It's a grind from the quarterback's perspective. It may not look as big of a grind because you know guys in the trenches go on one on one's, pads, receiver's legs are tired. It's easy to get into the lull of camp but it's like "how is the quarterback responding?", "how is he leading?", "How is going down to execute on long drives?" and just to detail the focus each and every play.

Q: How do you like to lead? What's leadership like to you in camp versus the game?

A: It's been different. If you would've asked me earlier in my career, I was always a lead by example. I think the older you get, the more experience you have you become more comfortable being vocal. Ultimately, how you play and how you execute is what guys are going to respond to the most. For me, go out and do your job each and every day, uplift guys and make the guys better, and trust them. Don't go out there and try to be Superman. There are 11 guys on the field playing for one goal and that's to win the rep and ultimately win the game. Each and every play, like I said just be detailed in your focus and execution. 

Q: You didn't talk much about (Quarterback) Daniel (Jones) last time when we spoke to you in the spring when you just got here. What have you learned about him and what have you seen from him in the last couple of weeks?

A: Great competitor, friendly, southern. Me and my friends go back and forth on whether Virginia is southern or not. It kind of reminds me of people I grew up with, Virginia, and North Carolina. Much respect for Daniel. The way he approaches his job each and every day and the way he goes out and leads. I think just the quarterback room as a whole, we all bring out the best in one another. Whether it's in competitions, whether it's in the weight room, whether it's on the field. We tally up who has the best throws for the day. If you see our board of tallies it can get crazy but much respect to Daniel. He's doing a great job throughout camp. 

Q: Does it seem like things have clicked with him the first couple of days here?

A: I think he is going out there and making plays. Guys are helping him around. Guys on the receiving end, tight end, backfield. He is doing a great job of commanding the huddle and going out there and executing. 

Q: How would you assess the progress of this offense so far? You've seen a bunch of different systems and a bunch of different training.

A: I think we've taken a step in the right direction each day. Throwing a lot of information in the spring. We were together, what? Nine weeks. I got a chance to get familiar with the offense so once we were able to get into training camp, it wasn't necessarily zero. We were already leaving on a high note, so we wanted to keep that energy rolling. I think (Head) coach (Brian Daboll) has done a great job of mixing different concepts but also allowing guys to do what they are most comfortable with. That's going out there and making plays. You see (Wide Receiver) Wan'Dale (Robinson) being moved around in different areas. You see (Wide Receiver) KG (Kenny Golladay), (Wide Receiver David) Sills, and I can go on and list. I don't leave receivers out saying that guys are outperforming others, but you see guys moving around in different spots making plays. 

Q: I wanted to go back to when you came here, (Joe) Schoen was part of a front office that you were with in Buffalo. You played well and they traded you. Daboll had gotten there like three months before, you didn't get to work with him. Why'd you come here to guys that even when you performed well moved on from you?

A: That's the NFL. Sometimes it's business. More times than not, it's business. I don't hold any grudges. I know what I'm capable of doing in any setting and I think I've proved that every time I've had a chance to play. The opportunity presented itself for me to come in – I thought that it was the best decision out of the choices that were available. I'm happy with the decision I made, glad that I'm around such a great group of guys in the locker room as well as a great group of guys in the coaching staff as well, too.

Q: How are you looking? They were obviously very clear with you that you are the backup and Daniel Jones is the starter. You're a competitive guy so how do you look at that? You want to compete to win the job but they're not going to let you win the job because Daniel is the starter.

A: You can go back to my draft prep interviews; I've said this from day one -my job is to come in and prepare like a starter each and every day. I think that's just the mindset, that's not everybody but it's the mindset for me and I know it keeps me in a competitive state of mind. Also, it builds trust within your teammates. If there is no drop-off from the first, second and third group, the better our team is. 

Q: I assume you didn't come in here saying, "I'm going to be the backup?"

A: I came in here ready to compete and that's what the nature of this game is. There is only one quarterback that can play, and you have to be ready at any time when that opportunity presents itself. I'm working each and every day just trying to get better and ready for the opportunity that presents itself.

Q: In your experience, does this offense require more communication between the quarterback and the receivers getting on the same page given the options that the receivers have?

A: I wouldn't say any more than any other, it's just a level of focus and detail in both the receiver and the quarterback have to be on the same page. There's definitely a lot of options in this offense for the wide receivers, a lot of opportunities, for a lack of a better term, freelancing to make plays. It's just more so just being on the same page. I think that's what the spring and training camp is for. For us to learn body language but also for us to learn different things and get comfortable with different schemes.

Q: In 12 years in the league, you've seen a lot of different coaches trying to install a culture that is conducive to winning. Is there anything that Brian Daboll has done that has impressed you in that context?

A: Each day he impresses me. The way he commands the locker room, the meeting rooms, and the respect that he has amongst the guys on the team, he does a great job of keeping everyone involved but also not withholding information. He's straightforward with us. One of the things that I like, just in our meetings – like today was a first and second down day, yesterday was third-and-10 – we talked about situations. Sometimes, you don't get to those conversations until the season but it's good to keep everybody abreast and keep everybody on the same page and understand where the focus of the team is for that day rather than just putting it on the table and talking about it later. I think he does a good job of communicating to each position group and to a man, I would say he has all the respect in the world.

Q: How important was it for you to get a two-year contract?

A: I'm thankful for the opportunity to be able to sign a two-year deal here. It's no but, I'm thankful, let's get that fair and square. That's behind me now, the work is here and I'm just excited about getting out each and every day and getting better.

Wide Receiver Wan'Dale Robinson

Q: What's your first training camp been like? I know it's only been a week or so, but what are your impressions?

A: It's been great, really just trying to go out each and every day and just get better. Really just trying to do whatever the coaches ask of me, and make sure the team is getting better each and every day.

Q: I know you did it in college, but did you expect to be lining up at running back and taking hand-offs when you got here?

A: Yeah, I figured that would be a little bit a part of the plan but again, wherever Coach (Head Coach Brian Daboll) Dabs and Coach (Offensive Coordinator Mike Kafka) Kafka want me to line up, I'll be more than happy to line up whether that's running back, inside slot receiver, or outside receiver.

Q: What do you think of that package where it could be you, (Wide Receiver) Kadarius (Toney), and (Running Back) Saquon (Barkley) all in the backfield together?

A: I think it could be pretty exciting, we'll see the stuff that they come up with, and whenever game time comes, I'm sure you'll be happy to see it.

Q: Can you throw?

A: Hey, you're going to have to see. We can't give anything out right now (laughs).

Q: Do you add to that every day, are you introducing new things and new wrinkles you can do off of that?

A: Just a little bit. Dabs likes to play with it a little bit, but just different stuff each and every day that we're doing.

Q: Do you feel like things clicked a little bit for the offense over the last day or two?

A: Yeah, each and every day we're just getting better. This is a new system that we're all learning, and just the communication aspect and everything all has to come together for us to be a really good offense.

Q: How fun is it for you knowing that you have options now and can run these routes to basically do what you say, as opposed to being stuck in a certain route?

A: It's great, this is the type of offense that you'd want to be in as a receiver. They give you a lot of flexibility on running your routes and just allowing you to make plays and get open.

Q: Do you feel like you're making plays? You see you're getting a lot of passes over the middle, are you feeling like, 'I'm doing really well'?

A: I'm just trying to go out there every day and prove that they drafted me for a reason. I'm just trying to do everything that I can to help our team win in whatever aspect, whether that's running the ball, catching the ball, I'm just willing to do so.

Q: You had a little (Tackle) Evan Neal impersonation on the swing pass to Saquon.

A: I was trying to make sure Say got in the endzone and I definitely think he would've got in right there. Really just trying to do whatever I can to help our team win, and if that's in the blocking game then that'll be me too.

Q: It was a pretty good hold for what, 185 pounds?

A: Yeah, whatever they need me, I got it (laughs).

Q: You're not the biggest guy out there, do you notice a difference at this level, is there anything that's more difficult because of that?

A: No, it's been like this my whole life since I started playing at five years old. I've always been one of the smaller ones and had to overcome that. I'm not going to treat it any different now. At the end of the day, it's still football and my job is to go out there and make plays and get open.

Q: Aren't there a lot of receivers now that aren't the biggest guys in the world?

A: Yeah, we all have our own ways of getting open and doing our own thing. I don't really try to compare myself to anybody or anybody that's the same size because everybody does things really well that I might not do really well. It's part of the game.

Q: That kind of puts you at an advantage though because you can duck under pads and avoid the hit.

A: Yeah, that definitely helps sometimes. You get lost in traffic a little bit. At the end of the day, you've just got to keep making plays.

Q: You're a part of a group of exciting new talent that's coming here, and it seems like you're getting into the swing of things at camp. Do you feel just a sense of optimism about the season and what you guys can accomplish together?

A: Yeah definitely, that's just with the whole group. The whole group is even excited for us and they're all helping us out in every way possible. So, just really going out there every day and we're all working just trying to do what we can to help this team.

Offensive Lineman Shane Lemieux

Lemieux: Good morning guys. Good afternoon.

Q: What's it like getting some reps at center the last couple of practices?

A: It's been fun. It's definitely a challenge. It's something I've never done before. Wherever the coaches want me, I'll go out there and do it – whether its left guard, right guard, center, tackle. Whatever's best for the team.

Q: Didn't you work at center? I mean, at college, weren't you starting to cross train at center?

A: There was a little bit of experimentation, do you know what I mean? I just – I never put my hand on the ball until the first day I got here. It was more of a like, 'Hey, let's see if you can snap.' But at that time, I was learning the offense, I was learning how to play center, so it was lot. So, they said, 'Hey, just focus on guard for now.' That was that.

Q: This is deeper into training camp for you than you got last year. Does that cross your mind? Or is it hard to cross that barrier?

A: No, I think it was the first day of pads last year was the first day I hurt it. I don't think about that. Do you know what I mean? You can't go in with the mindset of ever thinking in the past or having that in the back of your mind because then you'll play slow. I'm healthy now and just working on getting better.

Q: How are you feeling? How is your knee?

A: It's good. It's good. It's just staying on top of my rehab, the stuff I've done in the off season and kind of make it right. Sticking to my routine. That was the biggest thing in this offseason was getting into a routine, making sure that my flexibility is all there, my strength is there, getting in the tubs and all of the recovery measures that I take.

Q: You aren't wearing a brace during practice?

A: Nope. No brace.

Q: So, no brace at all?

A: No. No brace.

Q: Why is that?

A: I just don't like playing with one. We've had to wear braces in practice the last two years, so I'm kind of just done with that.

Q: It was required?

A: Yeah, every O-lineman.

Q: But you still got hurt in practice, right?

A: Yeah. (laughs)

Q: The last two years, you guys had that offensive line rotation at certain positions where guys like play a series, play two series, then out a series. (Coach Brian Daboll) Dabs was saying the other day that he wants five guys. What do you prefer? What's the difference, I guess? You were part of a rotation two years ago.

A: Doesn't matter to me. I mean, 'Shane get in the game.' I'm going to go. 'Shane you're not coming out.' I'm going to listen to what the coaches say. You can't go in with the mindset of thinking about too many things especially on a game day like that. You've just got to be ready all the time.

Q: I just ask because it's always like offensive lineman need to be as one. Think as one, and be in a unit. I think it's easier for five guys to do that than eight.

A: Yeah. You know, I can't really say whether or not it has an effect on it. My rookie year, I started the year not being a starter and I had to be ready 24/7 on the sidelines. So, I know getting into a groove and stuff, but I feel like I'm at a point now that whenever they need me to go in, I can go in.

Q: Can you speak about playing next to (Tackle) Andrew (Thomas) who took a step forward? And now you have (Center) Jon (Feliciano) in there. I know Jon missed some of the summer, but he was there in the spring. Just what those guys can do, and what they bring to help you with your game?

A: Andrew, I played with him a lot in my rookie year. Last year, it was really fun seeing him take that huge step. This training camp so far, he's been playing really well. It's really fun getting to play against him because he's a really smart football player. Not a lot of people talk about that a lot with Andrew. Everyone thinks he's a super athletic, strong guy, but he's a brainiac. He knows exactly what he's doing, and he can pick up on blitzes. He's always saying, 'Hey Shane, watch this.' I'm like, 'Oh, I didn't even see that.' It's really cool to see that. Jon, obviously knowing the offense, there's just a sense of calmness with him because he knows everything that's going on. He's saying, 'Hey Shane. Come here. Come do this. Come a-block." All this kind of stuff. It's definitely a sense of calming with Jon in there, because he's been playing so long in that system.

Q: The O-line is put to the test with this defense you're going against every day. You've played against a decent amount of teams. Is this pretty unique what you have to face day-in-and-day-out?

A: Yeah, and I think it's going to make us better. (Defensive Coordinator Wink Martindale) Wink's bringing everything, and obviously our D-line is – we're competing. That's a good D-line now. We're seeing the best. Hopefully that will prepare us in the future.

Q: The O-line has taken a lot of abuse in the last couple of years. Do you guys have or get a feeling that it may change this year, or you may surprise people?

A: Yeah, we don't even talk about the past. Obviously, we know what's happened. The guys have been around, we know what it's been like. We just want to put our best foot forward and go out there and show the people what we can do. Show the fans what we can do. It starts with work. We're taking it one day at a time, and we're trying to get better every single day.

Q: Does (Offensive Line Coach) Bobby Johnson coach differently? Does he ask you guys to do techniques differently or?

A: Some stuff like combos, but it's stuff that we've been working since OTAs. But by now, I think we have a better understanding, a better feel for everything he's asking us to do. The sets, I guess, are a little bit flatter, more aggressive for the guards. Tackles really aren't any different in their pass sets. But combo blocks, run blocking, footwork's a little bit different than something I've been used to. But obviously, I'm enjoying it so far, and we've had a lot of work since OTAs.

Q: How does Bobby Johnson react to good days versus bad days? What's he like with encouragement?

A: I think Bobby, what I really like about him is he's a flatline. He's the same person every single day. You're going to get – whether it's a good or it's a bad – he's going to demand a lot out of you. I don't think if we have a bad day, he's extra hard on us. I think it's the same thing, and I really respect that of him.

Q: Are there other ways off the field that Andrew Thomas is a brainiac?

A: He's a musician. He can play the drums. I think he can play the piano. He's got like a whole studio in his house where he can go and do stuff.

Q: Have you heard him?

A: No. I've heard him sing before. I've heard him sing. He had a video. I've seen it before.

Q: How's he at singing?

A: He's good. He's good. When he sang as a rookie, it was really impressive.

Q: What did he sing?

A: I can't remember what it was. There's a lot of guys, like especially me when I went up there, it's just like, 'Gosh get him off.' Andrew was just like, 'Wow, he's got a voice.' He's a musician.

Q: (Defensive Lineman Dexter Lawrence) Dex said yesterday that he didn't start the fight, but he finished it. Any comment?

A: No, Dex is my boy. I've got nothing to say. It's training camp. There are going to be fights. I love Dex. I love (Defensive Lineman Leonard Williams) Leo. We're boys. I'm literally right in the middle of both of them. So, I see Dex, I see Leo. I say, 'What's up?' every morning. We're teammates. I told Dex later in the day, 'We're going to make each other better.' He said, 'I know.' I said, 'We've got to keep going.' It's just competitive. In the trenches, we're leaning on each other. We're fighting each other. It's going to happen eventually. Especially on these hot days, it's going to happen. It's training camp.

Q: Is there an interesting back story behind that tattoo?

A: Which one, this one? It's a Pacific Northwest tattoo. So, this is Mount Adams in Yakima, Washington. There's nothing really significant about it. My story – my tattoos don't really have any stories to them. I just like…

Q: It's just a huge bear…

A: Yeah, I want to add on to it more too. I kind of want to make it a Pacific Northwest with like a salmon and a river and stuff.